The money

“10 held by H for the big guy?”

The Gilliar email, Tony Bobulinski, a hotel bar handshake and the WhatsApp threat

RECORD / AT A GLANCE

Disputed

The email, the meeting and the WhatsApp message are real. Bobulinski’s reading that “the big guy” meant Joe is plausible and has not been rebutted by another explanation, but the deal it described was never signed in that form, and no record shows Joe held or received a share.

THE EVENTS / THE INVESTIGATION / THE STORY

The chronology.

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Evidence & assessment.

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WHAT PEOPLE SAY ABOUT THIS FILE

The claims, rated.

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DOCUMENTED China, the “big guy” & the bank records

“Joe met Hunter’s China partner Bobulinski.”

Hunter introduced them at the Beverly Hilton on 2 May 2017. What was discussed is disputed.

Who says it: Bobulinski, Hunter.

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DOCUMENTED China, the “big guy” & the bank records

“Hunter sent a WhatsApp threat saying his father was beside him.”

IRS evidence shows the 30 July 2017 message. Hunter says he was high and sent it to the wrong Zhao.

Who says it: IRS whistleblower.

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DISPUTED China, the “big guy” & the bank records

““The big guy” in the email was Joe Biden.”

Bobulinski says so and no one has offered another candidate; Hunter denied knowing what it meant. The deal it described was not signed in that form.

Who says it: Tony Bobulinski.

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UNPROVEN China, the “big guy” & the bank records

“Joe was sitting next to Hunter when he sent the message.”

Only Hunter’s message says so; Hunter denies it and no location data has been released.

Who says it: Republicans.

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OPEN THE RECORD

Sources & limits.

Numbered citations in each article identify the relevant sources. These records have different purposes and evidentiary weight.

  1. Tony Bobulinski interview, February 13, 2024 ↗

    Primary transcript, inspected from downloaded PDF. Bobulinski attributes “big guy” to Joe Biden and alleges involvement; those are his claims. The final ownership documents and whether a transaction occurred are separate questions.

  2. Tony Bobulinski, written statement to the House impeachment inquiry, February 2024 ↗

    His account of the Sinohawk venture and his two meetings with Joe Biden in Los Angeles on 2 May 2017.

  3. Rob Walker interview, January 26, 2024 ↗

    Primary testimony; Walker denies Joe Biden was a partner, describes the 2017 CEFC encounter and disputes the proposed “big guy” allocation. His interpretation is presented alongside Bobulinski’s.

  4. AP: Hunter deposition takeaways, March 1, 2024 ↗

    Wire account distinguishes the proposed SinoHawk allocation from the later agreement and reports Hunter’s denial. The article carries a correction: the proposal was 10% equity, not a $10 million equity stake.

  5. Hunter Biden deposition, February 28, 2024 ↗

    Primary congressional transcript; Hunter’s explanations and denials are attributed testimony, not independent findings. Relevant pages include 21–34, 81–84, 104–106, 116–118 and 145–146. Questions can contain contested premises.

  6. James Biden interview, February 21, 2024 ↗

    Primary interview; pages 127–129 address loans and repayments. The introduction explicitly says the interview is not under oath, although knowingly false statements to Congress can still be criminal. Do not call this a perjury conviction.

  7. House Ways and Means Committee, September 2023: Exhibit 300, WhatsApp messages from Hunter Biden’s iCloud backup (IRS case file) ↗

    Contains the 30 July 2017 message to “Zhao” about “sitting here with my father.”

  8. House Ways and Means Committee: transcribed interview of IRS whistleblower Gary Shapley, 26 May 2023 (released June 2023) ↗

    The supervisory special agent’s account of the tax investigation and of the 7 October 2022 meeting with David Weiss.

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