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“The Israelis knew”

The five men in the van, the Odigo messages, and the claims built on them

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The five men in the van

What the witness saw and what police found.

A New Jersey woman told ABC News she saw three young men on the roof of a white van, filming themselves with the burning towers behind them, and that they looked “happy.” She took down the plate. Police stopped the van around 4 p.m. and found $4,700 in cash in a sock, a box cutter and two foreign passports. The driver, Sivan Kurzberg, told officers, “We are Israeli. We are not your problem.” [1]

An FBI Newark file released under FOIA says the photos were taken from a rooftop garage at 100 Manhattan Avenue in Jersey City within minutes of the first strike, and records interviews and polygraph exams. [2] The men worked for a company called Urban Moving and were held for visa violations. [3]

What we can’t tell you. The public FBI file we read is heavily redacted. It does not record a finding that the men knew of the attacks.

The sources

  1. ABC News 20/20, June 2002: Were Israelis detained on Sept. 11 spies? ↗

    The witness who saw the five men filming the burning towers, the traffic stop and what police found in the van.

  2. FBI Newark file on the five Israelis, section 1 (Internet Archive text of the FOIA release) ↗

    The case summary: the stop, what was seized, the interviews and polygraphs, and the immigration holds.

  3. New York Times, 8 October 2001: 5 young Israelis, caught in net of suspicion ↗

    Their lawyer’s account, the moving-company jobs and the deportation proceedings. Confirmed by search.

The Odigo messages

A warning, but not a specific one.

Computerworld reported in September 2001 that two employees of Odigo, an instant messaging company in Herzliya, Israel, received a message about two hours before the attacks warning of an attack. An Odigo executive said it was a nonspecific threat that did not mention the World Trade Center; the staff found the sender’s internet address and passed it to Israeli security, who gave it to the FBI. [1]

What we can’t tell you. What became of the sender is not public.

The sources

  1. Computerworld, 28 September 2001: FBI probes advance IM attack warnings ↗

    The Odigo message claim and what the company said.

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The claims, rated.

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